that would restore confidence in the vatican and in the papacy. but short of that there's no one signal. actually, there's not going to be one signal in the election of the next pope because everyone is looking at other factors too like geography or region or anything else. so it's not just one -- it's not just one issue. >> do you have hopes who the next pope will be. >> i like to speak to that more, the lack of moral credibility. the roman catholic church is known for its condemnation on issues relating to sexual morality. there's no credibility. in terms of pope most of the men that will vote for this pope have been selected by pope john paul ii or pope benedict xvi. it's not a real investment in our glory social justice in this church. i don't like to discount the holy spirit. >> can i ask you this question. if there are frustrations you have with the doctrine of the church, why do you stay in it? i'm always sort of interested in catholic reformers, people called to action a grouch folks trying to change the church direction from within it. th